Feb 18, 2009

请让黄洁冰安静的离开

今天早上接获破坏黄洁冰的短讯,第一个感觉就是,这社会开始生病了,以往不光彩的事情只可能口传,偷偷在背后说,如今照片也刊登在报章或互连网上了;曾几何时私隐,成为了政治攻击的工具,难到公众人物不能有过去吗?

先贤告诉我们,人"不贵于无过,贵于能改过",公众人物的神圣化印象并不是他们自己要的,是来自社群们尊重和推崇,为何发生事情后,这些被捧上天的公众人物们不能说"这是我的生活,这是我的私事,我是这样的,接受我,必须接受我的全部,而不是一个神化的偶像!我有过去,可惜我更珍惜未来!
这事情发生到如今也没有什么好说,只求不要再鞭挞受害者,这行径可能会让一些人有快感,却有如"鞭尸".放手吧!让黄洁冰静静的离开,不是赤裸裸逃开,尊重自己也尊重别人.

77 comments:

  1. 写这短讯的人绝对不是人。。。

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  2. 像我之前形容的只有XX道德薄弱。

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  3. 可能振国兄无须公开此短讯内容,一旦公开,不是与简讯有着同样的效果吗?这可能比简讯传送更快,所以建议删除!莫怪直言。

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  4. 写这种短讯是人渣,谁无过错圣人也有错,更何况他之前是位平凡人。

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  5. 花木兰 said...
    写这短讯的人绝对不是人。。。

    1000% Agree, that cannot be a human, must be bitch or son of bitch of M$A!!

    To all M$A member here, are you guys stil can't think (because has no brain?) that M$A is gonna die anyway, but K$ir and Cina M$A KEJI just make it DIE EVEN FASTER!

    You guys have no balls to shout to K$ir!?

    PLEASE STOP CLAIMED that your idiot m$A represent chinese!!

    Bahari

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  6. 一个互动空间的内容还好.....

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  7. bahari,

    this is diferrent, dun always convert things to ur generation.

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  8. to Keykok, I am sure you don't received these dirty sms from anyone, hence, you know EXACTLY who sent you that, do you?

    Do you DARE to say, that son of bitch (or bitch) is your M$A members or NOT?


    I can't think what other answer, because so far normal human in this country didn't received and will never send that kind of SMS.

    Real Human out there, don't you agree?

    Bahari

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  9. Keykok

    ASK yourself and think(if you have got a brain, to think), who wrote this and who sent it to you?

    ASK yourself, why you received this but NOT ME and ohter normal human in this country?

    And who is K$ir and what did he said recently? And don't you think normal human should be able to think that what is his role behind all this?

    Are you a normal human with brain? Aren't you?

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  10. You guys have no balls to shout to K$ir!?

    I did not, because i am not his "partner" (SLAVE lar) and i only talk (or SHOUT) to Human, sometimes dog and cat, but no group like your master.

    Bahari

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  11. Last one before go to lunch, look at the title of this blog, are you suggesting something such as "full naked", how do you is FULL NAKED?So far news said is half naked photo!?

    Perhaps you should have change a title of the blog, else, with your M$A status and that kind of title, people will just easily judge you by the Cover.

    You got me? Ops...sorry not sure you got a brain or not.

    Bahari

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  12. People gonna said, hei, what the f**k M$A blogger write these "peom" in internet?

    One side, you M$A get what you want as K$ir told you to do.

    One side, you get more Chinese hate you make your party die faster.

    Bahari

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  13. haha,

    i really dunno wat u said, i am not sure whether the senderis mca member or not, he is businessman.

    so wat title u suggest? dun talk nothing here......

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  14. if this not ur party, wat u care about?

    if mca not represent chinese wat u afraid?

    last......this blog do not force u to come, why u always here?

    u like us, u like mca and u like all cocky.

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  15. Wow, keykok, really pissed you off?
    Come on, open blog but not allow to join?

    You can set some condition, such as only dog, slave and M$A member can come into your blog, Human are not welcome. Or something like that.

    You know what i care even M$A is not my party? Because M$A keep self-claimed represent ALL Chinese to declare as SLAVE to uM$o. Can't your deny that?

    IF M$A can cincai self-claimed represent me, can't i f**k M$A people!?

    Title? your title suggesting that SHE IS GUILTY AND RUNAWAY, don't believe, you can ask other HUMAN.

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  16. Bahari,

    i think u did not understand my word.

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  17. 我不排除黄洁冰是遭自己人出卖的。也就是说买这些裸照及发布的人有可能是民联里的人。因为黄洁冰很多时候不跟他们“埋堆”拿“空头”。如果您记得,黄洁冰说过“我甚至遇过民联国会议员来要求我们给第3级山坡破例”。很多发展商不是很爽她了。
    自己人做是很难查的,因为只要说是国阵做的,全部人都会赞同的。没有人会怀疑是自己民联的人做的。
    吉打的那个州议员是自己的咸湿才会有今天。但人人都说是国阵的事。有些事是连民联也在骗人民的。
    我不是说国阵就是好但我们也不要说民联都是好。要用大家的智慧来分析。
    如果可以,请到http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=55123906845 支持黄洁冰吧!谢谢!!

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  18. Don't understaand you? May be lar, but all this goes back to original,
    so far, you have not yet answer DIRECTLY, such as

    1. Did M$A keep self-claim resprenset chinese community and declared slave to u$no, hence, um$o really create lot of racist policy becase "leaders (f**k) of chinese" already agree?

    2. Did M$A has no equal right infront of u$no? Even a small idiot like K$ir?

    3. Did you and M$A know corruption is killing this country?

    you guys have no brain, or just another corruption pig.

    Bahari

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  19. 侠客,

    有这可能,总之政治就是肮脏的,民联又如何?除了BAHARI这号人物,所以有时候我很喜欢看他的回应,虽然一些缺乏建设性,可是他看很多,懂很多,他身上有我们应该看齐的地方,可是我不可能是他要找的对向,烂泥如何与神圣比美呢?

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  20. keykok, should i take it as complement? I guess not, you can save your complement to OTK, and your master um$o such as K$ir.

    As you know, your M$A ADUN sound PLP to K$ir, you can learn from him, but better applied to these corrupted pig.

    Bahari

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  21. 1. MCA not represent chinese, but always think for chinese. Maybe some claimed but not us.

    2. equal? i dunno, but as i saw is not.

    3. Corruption Killing is word from PKR.....u r from PKR?

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  22. BAHARI,

    我有事出去,您可以继续写......我会看。

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  23. Second time i say this, you can have all kind of Rotten Aplles theory if you want, PKR, DAP or whatever rotten apple.

    What you need to do is to make you a free man with free soul, what able to think the best for the country, always be the king maker (at least, try!), i don't care who you like, in fact, i don't like some of PR people too, what you should care is WHAT/WHO YOU DON'T LIKE such as

    1. Corruption
    2. Misused of power (lot lot of angency!)
    3. Racist policy.

    Is that so hard for you to SEE?


    Bahari

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  24. keykok said: Corruption Killing is word from PKR.....u r from PKR?

    Are you NUT? First of all i am a FREE MAN WITH FREE SOUL with independet think ability, i don't belong to PKR/DAP certainly NOT PAS!

    Are you NUT? Do you actually mean without PKR hence NO CORRUPTION in this country? What? Tthey created corruption or they created the english word "corruption"??

    What the fuck you been doing? Even newspaper is controlled by your MASTER but on and off lot of CRONI (Corruption lar) earn big money spend big money!

    Are you Nut?

    Bahari

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  25. 不要再加“盐巴”在她的身上。。
    她已经需要很大的勇气来面对大家了。。

    写那则短讯的人相等于偷拍她裸照的人--一样无耻。。

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  26. 老兄,不用去回应他了!他都看不懂!

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  27. Keykok, last time people sent sms curse bitch-Hee you act high class jump out write a blog called "民联支持者请自律", of you assume these come from Pakatan

    So why this time you got people curse/insult Eliz Wong by SMS and send to you, why don't you write the title to be "M$A支持者请自律"??

    Because you know there is no human 支持者 of M$A, just slave and dog around?

    Or you want to admit that you are just lousy blogger?

    Bahari

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  28. 哈哈!

    给他说吧!他很有心。

    Bahari,
    Dun worry u r not talking to a nut, just a question.

    sori! out.....

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  29. keykok, if you want to f**k with me, i can play along.

    If you want to learn something from me...hm...i teach you for free, but you better ask your pig fren dog fren of M$A keep their month inside pocket.

    You know why M$A die even faster before 308? Becuase in M$A has no sense of logical/independent thinking and always act high class, learn from si-botak-keji or K$ir.

    Bahari

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  30. Victor Chan, yayay, you are the man! A very precise definition of M$A members!

    Bahari

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  31. 认同林恩霆所说的,公开该短讯内容,效果实在与传送该短讯无异。

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  32. Bahari,
    Thank you,I will take your comment as an honor.Just let this issue cold down,let Eli have some space to rest,be alone.Over the Hq of PKR ,by the time,Eli wave her hand with smile to supporter,who else will know that her heart is bleeding.She just a heart break woman.
    and not every MCA members like the KKB one.Every party have some scum and dirt,hopefullly is not you and me.May God bless you.

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  33. 谴责写短讯的人,却惹来无理谩骂,振国兄还真的倒霉咧!
    不过,bahari你是有看没懂,还是借题发挥?建议你下一届出来竞选议员,一定高票中选。

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  34. y u likes to criticize others comment r useless,brainless?cant u be more objective?u r the most sober minded?you think we dun know that somebody join BN is to fulfill thier own desire?young boy,changes needs time to progress,it wont change overnite,no matter is BN or PR,both hav the long way to improve current situation,not just scolding around,and ppl will accept that PR is the best.
    the thing u think is correct,doesn't means right to others,ones medicine,can be others poison.
    everyone can share their view,and voice wat they think,this is the speech freedom,nobody hav the rights to ask other to shut up,and can't express their view on an issue,even china,as the communist country also wont do that!
    so,pls respect for wat others' views,let it rite or wrong,just share it,dun hav to criticize so badly.

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  35. keykok,

    Do think the title is suitable ? Do u really feel sorry for what happen to Elizabeth ? Do u still insist that u make no misstake for posting this article on your blog ?

    Hu Do sia ge,

    U r the only one criticize that adun from kedah with the 'horny' word,he has been separated with his wife for a very long period,he prefer to resign eventhough he has a chance to be very very rich,he is the man,i salute him.Do u dare to say the same word on CSL ?

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  36. 这短讯转载到这里好象不大好吧...

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  37. trevortan,

    I do agree with u that change takes time but I don't see any sign of change in progress within UMNO.Do u ? Freedom of speech play a very important part in democracy,but y no ceramah allow in Perak ? Y freedom of speech only exist in cyber space ?karpal dare to criticize Anwar but y nobody fr BN dare to criticize Khir for what he said ?

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  38. To treventon

    Chinese people say, when badly sick, got to use STRONG Ubat!

    The country, has come to a critical point!

    Only strong comment to make these weak people UP! If even strong comments/criticize can't wake him up, so is hopeless.

    In fact, ask you M$A face the reality, are the country facing Corruption, misused of power and racist policy, you all also DARE NOT answer directly?

    Hasrh words or not, not longer different if you all all choice to avoid and avoid.

    Bahari

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  39. M$A is slave to K$ir, i don't see any reason they dare to so!

    In fact, one ADUN of M$A selangor, some more P K$ir LP in this case.

    That's the quality of M$A? All kind of examples around.

    ChuaCD is another kind, how can he agree with K$ir eli case is same as his case? He was fucking a young woman in a hotel behind his wife! For god shake, how can be agree K$ir? How can?

    Dying is for sure, K$ir and brainless talk from OTK and ChuaCD make it faster, REALLY FAST now.

    tic toc tic toc...

    Bahari

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  40. >>谴责写短讯的人,却惹来无理谩骂
    As yourself, who wrote that SMS?

    Any reason got to paste that into your blog? It doesn't the same trick K$ir wanted, that fool more foolish people.

    Bad news is, we have lot of foolish people in this country.

    Good news, number of foolish people getting less.

    Bad news, not sure is this country "still in ICU" of masuk neraka by that time less enough of foolish people.

    Bahari

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  41. oic, are you staying in Kedah? Do you ready know what happen in Bukit Selembau or you just hear from someone?
    CSL is horny.. but the horny is different between the ADUN and CSL. Do you think having sex willingly & been rape is the same?

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  42. 如果这短讯没有出来,怎样评论?怎样知道它是不适合?怎样知道内容?怎样知道严重性?

    还是空谈吗?凭空想象?做“盲侠”?乱乱说?

    传出去和进来看是两回事,如果自己进来然后说是我向外渲染,有欠公平,再将我的部落当作是社会拥有,当这里是什么?

    这事情没有必要争。

    OIC,

    我不认为您的问题是我应该回应的,对于ELI的事情,如果他男朋友是我,那是我的错,如果事情发生了到处找待罪羔羊,我认为找错人了。

    站在人道上我们可以同情,站在情法上,我只可以说,她必须要为自己的错误负责,不管她会否辞职或面壁思过,我一样尊重。

    这题目如果真是让您觉得这题目不妥,那真的是我的问题,也是我的自由,要考虑我的苦衷,如果每次读写“声援黄洁冰”比较不容易让我回想内容,我设的题目有让我回想内容的作用。

    慎重声明:这不是马华的部落格,对马华的不满请到马华投诉!不要将马华做的事情和我扯在一起。

    如果理论讲得通您们还要这里写吗?

    留言处是一个交流平台,如果没有建设性,只是谩骂那只有浪费空间,如果真的当我们都不懂,就当我们是小孩子慢慢教,不是发泄!

    最后,我认为应该改改题目,让大家舒服点。

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  43. http://www.sinchew.com.my/node/102905?tid=1
    針對他有否發表過“黃潔冰作為一名未婚女性,怎能容許一名尚未與她結婚的男人進入她的房間?”這番言論,基爾回應說:“當時,主要是有記者告訴我這件事(偷拍),以及要求我發表看法。”

    You M$A talk so much still pusing (just like OTK), until now none of you dare to say out FIRMLY, do you, agree/support or not of what you Master K$ir said?

    If YES, please answer, if NOT, as "partner" to K$ir, any action taken such as communication, in order prevent M$A die sooner because of what he said?

    Any thing has been done?





    What? Slave is not allowed to communicate with Master?

    What is the point you all talk big like very high class???

    Bahari

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  44. keykok

    Guess you have learn from what i said, when you received sms curse bitch-hee, you put a offense (or advise?) title to PR, now you received sms curse/insult Eli, you should have be fair and sensitive of that.

    However, you have changed it, be fair to Eli, if you think other should be fair to bitch hee.

    Bahari

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  45. keykok,

    I am glad to see the title is changed although u said u don't have to respond,it's ur freedom to decide what title to use but u must think twice before u do that,it was an insult to Eli,it was like adding salt on her wound,we want u to change the title not to comfort us,but to show ur respect to Eli.

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  46. Hu du sia ge,

    I am not staying in Kedah currently but I have 02 in my ID card,Alor Setar is my home town,but do u think people stay in Kedah know better than the rest in other part of M'sia ? If u have further info about that ADUN,pls share with us,I respect him because he refused to take the $$$.

    Pls don't reply with English as I can't understand ur English like...

    "CSL is horny.. but the horny is different between the ADUN and CSL. Do you think having sex willingly & been rape is the same?"

    If u r married and still stay with her,shall u refuse if any gal offer to have sex with u ? Rape is a crime but having sex with other female if u r married is immoral.I guess this is the reason y CSL resigned,He was then elected as No2 in MCA because MCA members could accept him,but it doesn't mean every malaysian can take it easyly.

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  47. 你们是怎么啦?为什么搞到这样激烈?我们不是有共同的目标吗?我们不是都不认同所发生在黄洁冰身上的事吗?我们不是要一起响应《反侵犯隐私运动》吗?

    我觉得,你们只是有不同的立场罢了。一个呢觉得没把短讯贴出来,怎么让人知道这短讯的杀伤力,它的破坏程度,他对受害者的人身攻击?另一个呢觉得这样做岂不是便宜了有心人,帮忙有心人散播这短讯?对受害者更加的伤害?

    就这样算了吧!你们都是明白事理的人!

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  48. 阿土伯,

    谢谢!

    他们也没有错,只是想知道为什么,不过您说得对,都没有错;而且我们的方向还是一直,要变好!

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  49. To keykok and 阿土伯,

    Want to be better? Always welcome!

    How to be a better man? A small tips is care nothing about what/who you like, instead, care serious to these what/who you don't like, as follows.

    1. Corruption
    2. Misused of Power
    3. Racist Policy

    Keep remember that's what we don't like and will never agree (unless you are one of them).

    For example, you think others has any problem if you like K$$r if he is not the the list???? Love or Hate anyone as you wish, I don't give a damn care!

    Bahari

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  50. 麻烦你把那短信删除吧。相信你妈妈也是女人。

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  51. Do you M$A understand? So paham tapi buat taktahu jer pasal sama sama croni?

    Bahari

    雪州國陣兵敗如山倒,是因為人民不能夠再忍受種族主義和神權政治,也不再忍受貪污、濫權、偏差和極端的州政府。而他當時是那個州政府的領導人。


    鄭丁賢‧他依然不明白
    2009-02-18 19:29

    基爾、凱里、慕克里,3位國家未來的主人翁,上電視發表政見,高談治國之道。

    3人之中,肯定有一人是下一任的巫青團團長。他們的政見,當然令人額外注目。

    看完之後,確實怵目驚心。如此國家主人翁,大家怕怕。

    尤其是基爾。

    這位前雪州大臣,在308大選讓國陣丟了雪州政權。你認為他會如何反省?

    他的道理是,巫統的馬來民族主義和回教化還不夠徹











    底,所以失去支持。

    他認為,只要巫統加劇推動馬來人議程,以及回教政策,將可以在下屆選舉扭轉劣勢。

    如果你以為這已經是極端和荒謬的極限,錯了,基爾的深沉,永遠讓人測不到底。

    他說,如果要讓非馬來人擁有和馬來人相同的地位,那就是褻瀆了馬來人特權;同樣的,非回教也不能和回教享有同樣地位。

    注意!這不是巫統大會上的言論,而是2天前(2月17日)通過電視台,向全國民眾廣播的談話。

    這就是基爾從308大選得到的啟發:巫統必須更加右傾,向馬來人主權和回教化靠攏。

    基爾依然不明白,雪州國陣兵敗如山倒,是因為人民不能夠再忍受種族主義和神權政治,也不再忍受貪污、濫權、偏差和極端的州政府。而他當時是那個州政府的領導人。

    雪州國陣垮台了,基爾卻想要藉巫青團還魂,來延長他的政治生命,擴張他的版圖,實現他的野心。

    而以目前的形勢衡量,他的機會是最高的。別問我為甚麼,這是巫統的文化。

    而我們聽說,巫統要改革,國陣要重整。是的,在基爾的帶領之下。
    星洲日報/馬荷加尼‧作者:鄭丁賢‧2009.02.18

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  52. Keykok, i notice you still have that sms.

    Please remove it from your blog, else, you are help K$ir to forward this kind of insult to the whole world!

    I wish to remind you that, Eli case is 100% not the same as ChuaCD, and certainly 100% not the same B****-hee.

    I am sure you know that, just remind you.

    Bahari

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  53. "Freedom of speech play a very important part in democracy,but y no ceramah allow in Perak ? "

    you don't know, doesn't mean it does not exist! 很明显,OIC根本没有关注民联的活动。民联在爱大华、积鹅营、雾边。。。已经办过了几场讲座。除了民联,民间团体、台湾留学生团体连同会馆也办了相关的讲座。

    没想到OIC除了哗众取从,也就只有泼妇骂街。原来,不过如此。还有,在别人的blog里撒野,也不懂得尊重下blogger,人家尊重你才回你英语,不尊重别人,也请尊重自己。

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  54. Bahari,

    “ I wish to remind you that, Eli case is 100% not the same as ChuaCD, and certainly 100% not the same B****-hee. ”

    How do you prove it is certainly 100% not the same? You are not the person involved. You are not the worms in their stomach. How can you be so sure that both cases are 100% not the same? Do you have evidence to prove there are 100% not the same? Where is the evidence? Show us how's 100% NOT the SAME!

    Bahari,

    You are not GOD! Don't think that you are GOD! You and I , we all are human. You can point us the questions, at the same time, we also can pointed you to answer the same question.

    Since you already know all the answers, what for you keep repeating the same questions in a wrong time? It's not only the wrong time. It is totaly WRONG for you to ask the question where here is not the court. You are not judge, if you are, all of us also the judge ! If you are not, and we are not the offenders, we have right not to answer you any question. You yourself keep on pusing by asking those silly questions in a wrong place, wrong timing and questioning the wrong person.

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  55. Dear Bahari,

    Allow me to give you a few words.

    I admire your downright way to lay out your disgruntlement over here.

    I myself has been observing MCA for decades & just like how you perceive towards this aformentioned party, I strongly despise & loathe at it’s euphemistic hanky-panky which has cheekily shown to the Chinese community hitherto for years.

    However, you probably has barked up the wrong tree here as they are just the small fry in their party. Hence,there is no point keep bickering over those virtuous issues, albeit you are crass right in your notion , as this is tantamount to trying to hit the ants on rock by mere fist, or else yourself might be only labelled as misanthropist or nemesis by his comrades.

    Simple put, you can’t change people’s mindset in one night esp to those who mulishly with a penchant of tergiversatory periphrasis. It’s damn hard to evoke their compunction, thus again it’s useless to castigate them. Your condemnation would just enervate yourself without any equatable bounty.

    Please don’t waste time on rebutting this passé on the wane party, believe me, the vote in the next general election will tell the answer instead.

    On the other hand, you should be thankful to these minnow MCA bloggers who munificently granted you to lash out your harsh comments as you hardly get this sort of privileges at those MCA
    bigwig’s blogs.

    Cheers.

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  56. Ali,

    No ceramah allow in Perak is true n it was published in the media but not allow doesn't mean it doesn't exist,the candle vigil in PJ still going on and on.Corruption is against the law but it still happen in every corner of M'sia.

    If you notice any misstake i made,pls point it out,I'll appreciate that,but if you wanna to make it in personal,you r welcome too.

    I am using english just simply because I don't know han yu pin yin and i admit my english is limited,is that a problem for u ? Am I wrong to ask keykok to change the title ? Do u support the old title ?

    anyway,i am not sure if u r the real Ali or the fake one.

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  57. 好吧!就删除短讯.

    奇怪为何破坏马华和国阵领袖的短讯更严重却没有人要求删?

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  58. 如果可以的话,请振国老弟把这一段刺耳的话给删去吧。

    没有必要放在这里招摇嘛,这里路过的人多,甭小看了你的部落格。

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  59. 奇怪为何破坏马华和国阵领袖的短讯更严重却没有人要求删?
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    有吗?那就应该放出来看看,让大家观赏观赏了,哈哈。

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  60. 过去很多篇用数字的都是,在我这里是没有秘密的,不然,会有人说我是太马华,还是我策划破坏民联。

    国阵和民联都一样伟大......

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  61. 看过的人会说不想看,我连看第二次都不想,可是没有看过的人会一直在找,最后还会说隐瞒某些事情,误导群众,不过删掉了就算了.......

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  62. Monday, February 16, 2009
    从黄洁冰与蔡细历,看民联与国阵的道德战争
    黄洁冰的遭遇与蔡细历的遭遇当然有共同点:都是在不知情下被偷拍,然後上网传播出去,两个受害人也果敢的承认是自己。

    两人的遭遇当然也有不同点:黄洁冰是女性,蔡细历是男性;黄洁冰未婚,蔡细历已婚;黄洁冰不是公正党的党魁,蔡细历是马华的老二。

    对於女性比较维护是人之常情,一男一女在同一间房里,却只有女的裸照传出去,男的四両肉不见踪影,肯定是臭男人欺负女人。

    阿武叔以前当记者采访法庭新闻,带少女接客的男人称为姑爷仔,接客的少女称为被推入火炕的受害人,但在休庭後与少女闲聊,她们却一点也不含蓄的告诉你,跟她睡一晚要多少钱。

    蔡细历与黄洁冰大不同,因为蔡细历是男人,已婚男人不管是偷吃或是有准证的泡滾,很难叫人称他为受害人,尤其有图为证,或有片为证。

    而两人之间最明显的不同,是在案发後所受到的待遇,黄洁冰不管在民联或在公正党內,得到强有力的声援与支持,甚至得到敌对阵营支持者的鼔励、安慰、打气,只有3名智商低过白痴的国阵领袖,叫她必须为被偷拍而辞职。而蔡细历事件暴发後,敌对的民联下令不能以蔡细历光碟事件攻击国阵,反而是马华自家党內,到现在还在声讨着蔡细历应不应该再辞职的问题。

    当然,蔡细历最大的问题,是他在人们预算应当消失之後又出来竞选,又中选为为署理总会长,如果蔡细历选择退隐,所谓的道德问题早就已经不是问题。

    一部分马华党员担心蔡细历的床上功夫,会致使马华失去谈判的筹码,民联的领袖及支持者却不担心黄洁冰裸睡的姿势,会使民联蒙上阴影,相反的从上到下,对黄洁冰力挺到底。

    大部份还有人性者,都对黄洁冰事件寄以同情,并怒斥偷拍者及散布裸照者为无耻之徒,这对蔡细历摆脫光碟困扰或许有利。

    民联各政党不曾斥责被偷拍的蔡细历,此番偷拍事件发生在民联本身,民联在维护黄洁冰方面,显得自然有理得多,反而是马华党內自家兄弟,此番最好沉默是金,维护黄洁冰会換来双重标准的批评,攻击黄洁冰的话,黄冠文已经演示了後果是甚麽下场。
    发表者 UNCLE BOO 位置在: 10:32 PM

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  63. OIC,

    这样夜还不睡吗?还在写稿吗?

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  64. Keykok,

    I have insomnia problem so i spend a lot of time reading blog,sorry for criticize u on the title issue,I didn't mean to insult u on that issue,but I don't think it was suitable,and it might hurt her.

    Maybe u notice that I only criticize those people which talking nonsense and accusing others something untruth.Frankly speaking,I don't like BN particulary umno,I believe most of the MCA members also hate them,MCA lose the support from the chinese mainly because of the behavior of those UMNO guys,so whenever we place the corruption,misuse of power and racist issues question on them,they just ignore it,some even dare to say it would be worse if PR take over,as far as I can see,those problems mention above are proven,I'll do my best to send PR to Putra Jaya,if they fail to keep their promises to the rakyat after that,peoples' power will roll again.this is what i believe n I'll stick to my principle.

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  65. OIC,

    I agreed with u, i am also hate them,we have same direction, maybe take different way,but both of the way are important.

    i strongly believe people's power, thats why i am here.

    Thanks!

    Good nite!

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  66. 啊利 So now what? You know what you talking about?
    You have proof that Eli case is 99%same as ChuaCd or what just 95%? Or Eli actually married and fuck with others just like ChuaCD?

    Of course, i am not god, are you?

    But i am a free man with free soul that able to think independently, logically without controlled from a MASTER.


    Bahari,

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  67. To bro Mountebank

    Thanks for your comment and suggestion, yes, i will be gone after this, afterall, that's the best i can do.

    What else i can do if both soft and hard way are failed too?!

    Bro Mountebank, again thanks for your advice, you have got a great english level.

    Bahari

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  68. Is this guy NUT? A proxy of K$ir?
    Should everybody in this coutry ask him/k$ir opinion (approval?) everynight before sleep, such as, what we wear to sleep is consider "检点" or not?

    Shame to be a CHINESE. Do you guys know anyone from M$A or Gera$an name as "文彬"?

    Whoever woman (or man?) marry this guy "文彬", i m sure he/she gonna have hell of bad life.

    Bahari

    >>无论偷拍或被偷拍,睡觉穿着检点一点不就好了吗?


    http://www.malaysiakini.com/letters/98584
    黄洁冰本来就应该辞职
    文彬 | 2月18日 傍晚6点34分
    黄洁冰终于献议辞去雪州行政议员兼武吉兰樟州议员的职位。本来发生了这种丢脸的事件就应该立刻辞职,何必拖三拖四?难道你以为拖久了,人民就“mudah lupa”,让你继续当议员吗?

    身为公众人物或是人民委托的议员都应该懂得找照顾自己的形象。无论偷拍或被偷拍,睡觉穿着检点一点不就好了吗?人民委托你,就是要以你为榜样,但你却不会以身作则,还不断强调,本身并没有做错任何事情,并仍然获得家人、民联同僚的热烈支持。

    这是道德歪风的萌芽,也是人格沦落的蔓延!难道民联同僚的热烈支持又是鼓吹这种邪风吗?

    此外,她强调:其被偷拍裸照风波发生两天以来,说明了幕后一股势力企图要破坏其名誉,而其私人的生活和隐私权已经赤裸裸地被剥夺。这种推卸责任的话,不但让她不用承担行为不检点的错,还恶化人民对国阵的形象,并滥用人权来维护自己的所作所谓。若这样都行的话,其实打抢和偷窃都没错,因为为了填饱肚子,维护个人的生存权及生命权也应该!社会岂不是乱成一团!

    加上,她还敢誓言将会继续为人民服务,并将为一个公平的马来西亚而奋斗。作为人民代表就该懂得带眼识人,就连交的朋友都品德低劣,真是有眼无珠!你愿为人民服务,人民也不会把未来委托在一个视野狭窄及朦胧的议员身上。

    我们也该反省!不要再为议员或官员的演技给任何同情。我们必须知道:他们做错了就要负责任!国阵马华前任总会长蔡细历如此,民联议员也应该如此!不然我们如何向下一代交待!

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  69. 不管怎样,我们都朝着同样的方向走!我们一同向改革前进!往好的走。

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  70. 若这是一种感情报复,对方何必苦了曾经爱过的人。
    若这是一种政治阴谋,对方所用的手法未免太卑鄙!
    无论动机是什么,刻意散播议员裸照者所作的是罪行,令人不齿的罪行!

    人们的枪口该对准刻意散播裸照的幕后黑手,不该再在受害女议员的伤口上洒盐。

    无论她的选择是什么,人们都该尊重,但是,实在不希望此等逼害一再重复发生。

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  71. 精彩...! 曾聒部咯格..."一路走好"....

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  72. 我想将沈老的照片在此放100天。

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  73. OIC,

    " No ceramah allow in Perak is true n it was published in the media but not allow doesn't mean it doesn't exist "

    Sorry for misunderstand you in the early stage. Although political talk is banned by the police, there are still many talks related to 'sense of democracy' which running up by NGO of Chinese community in Perak.

    " Pls don't reply with English as I can't understand ur English like... "

    This is the sentence that you mentioned above where i think is too ....

    I can't remember what is the title that keykok used before which makes you so angry. However, he already makes some changes and you have softened your tone. My answer to you would be pointless though.

    I am the real Ali which have logged in to my Blogger a/c. There showed the 'B' blogger logo, blue name with underline and my ugly portrait as trademark. Someone can imitate my name or even my blogger a/c but he cannot imitate my behaviour.

    Lastly, Thank you for replying me in a gentle manner.

    Ali#

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  74. Ali,

    i think u owe me an explain for accusing me insult keykok,I were not the only person felt angry for the previous title.
    I were doing my best to avoid using some #$%^ words with my limited english to make that respond to you just simply because u r a female although u don't look lovely at all.

    Don't get involve if u don't know what we were talking about.

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